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Title: feel of playing R6 with V5.6.107
Post by: scott on April 26, 2023, 10:36:15 AM
I played for about three hours on v5.6.107 and would like to share my experience.At first I detected the keystrokes as soon as I entered the game, probably because I was using macros. I tried turning off the macro and after two games the alarm disappeared, after turning on the macro again there was no alarm, after playing four games the mousetrap did not work, I will try more modes to detect if the mousetrap will work.
Title: Re: feel of playing R6 with V5.6.107
Post by: richard on April 26, 2023, 12:40:52 PM
Thanks for sharing:)
Title: Re: feel of playing R6 with V5.6.107
Post by: nadie852 on April 26, 2023, 01:32:12 PM
I played all day yesterday R6 noticed in a single game a small delay that lasted 1 minute nothing more, there was no detection, I played with macros norecoil rapidfire and others all BEAST mode !!! CONGRATULATIONS Richard, thank you for your work!
Title: Re: feel of playing R6 with V5.6.107
Post by: Glorybravesoul on April 26, 2023, 07:04:03 PM
PS5 exp.

Last 2 days, there were no detections at all. Hopefully nothing changes in future)
Any chance to donate you?
Title: Re: feel of playing R6 with V5.6.107
Post by: mxczn on April 26, 2023, 09:44:41 PM
Richard, could you let us know if this update might arrive on the old crosshair? many people still have it and are expecting this position from you.
Title: Re: feel of playing R6 with V5.6.107
Post by: richard on April 27, 2023, 12:43:48 PM
@Glorybravesoul
thanks for the feedback!
your presence on the forum is all that we need:)
Title: Re: feel of playing R6 with V5.6.107
Post by: richard on April 27, 2023, 12:47:09 PM
@mxczn
the possibility is low, the codes of Cross Hair and S1 are completely different,
and Cross Hair has limited space to contain more codes.
Title: Re: feel of playing R6 with V5.6.107
Post by: SimplyHCF on April 28, 2023, 01:27:04 AM
Just wanted to post a update here myself after playing nonstop for 2 days.

So far, while using 5k DPI and 1K HZ with this new update, I have not yet been touched by Mousetrap in both Rainbow Six Siege and Destiny 2.

Loving the update so far as it obviously bypasses MT, but also the engine just feels more refined and better with this update. Thank you for the hard work guys!
Title: Re: feel of playing R6 with V5.6.107
Post by: scott on April 28, 2023, 09:08:14 AM
I'll continue to share my experience of the two days of the tour.The mousetrap always caught me on the first game at the start of each session, with or without the macro on, and when I stopped the macro and started three games the mousetrap would stop working, even if I turned the macro on afterwards the mousetrap would not work. I suspect that the mousetrap may work when you first enter the game, stop working when it detects that you are not using the keyboard and mouse, and remain inactive after that. I will try to re-enter the game several times over the next few days to prove this conclusion and I will keep you updated on my playthroughs.
@richard
If you need a donation please let us know, don't be shy!
Title: Re: feel of playing R6 with V5.6.107
Post by: richard on April 28, 2023, 10:16:51 AM
@scott
thanks for sharing! please keep us updated with your new findings:)
Title: Re: feel of playing R6 with V5.6.107
Post by: nayk on April 29, 2023, 06:12:40 AM
Thank you everything, works well.
Title: Re: feel of playing R6 with V5.6.107
Post by: nadie852 on April 29, 2023, 07:25:42 AM
Latest news, Mr. OBsIV from Xim Apex is furious with Richard because he has the best Firmware that exists at the moment for R6, confirmed Reasnow S1 best product on the market, will Richard be selling a Reasnow S2?
Title: Re: feel of playing R6 with V5.6.107
Post by: scott on May 01, 2023, 02:46:04 PM
I will continue to update my experience over the last two days, firstly I can't verify if my suspicions are correct, as sometimes entering a game with macros on will not be detected, it is more likely to be a matter of probability. But I have found a way to avoid detection in the first game, first you can turn off all macros, enter the game, do everything with the joystick and then turn on the macros when you have control of your cadre at the end of the game's scouting time, after which the mousetrap will not work, even if you turn on the next game.
@richard
xim has run out of good solutions to deal with this and they are more likely to use the development of new firmware. Congratulations on your victory and we thank you for your work day and night. If you need a donation to develop new firmware please let us know, don't be shy!
Title: Re: feel of playing R6 with V5.6.107
Post by: Ecko on May 01, 2023, 08:36:04 PM
Good afternoon! I played with the new firmware as soon as it came out, set it to 250 hz and always turned on macros during the match, and today I immediately fell into a trap in the first match. Does everyone get it or am I just unlucky?
Title: Re: feel of playing R6 with V5.6.107
Post by: richard on May 01, 2023, 09:13:20 PM
@nadie852 thanks!
and currently there is no plan for a S2.
Title: Re: feel of playing R6 with V5.6.107
Post by: richard on May 01, 2023, 09:16:46 PM
@scott thanks for sharing! we will note and assess your feedback carefully.
Title: Re: feel of playing R6 with V5.6.107
Post by: richard on May 01, 2023, 09:21:42 PM
@Ecko try some more matches with a controller until everything is back to normal,
then try our S1 with 5.6.107 firmware with no macros.
please send your findings to support@reasnow.com
we would love to help with all our resources.
Title: Re: feel of playing R6 with V5.6.107
Post by: scott on May 03, 2023, 12:43:39 PM
I'll continue to update my two days of play and as others have said, Ubisoft seems to have updated their mousetrap since May 1 and I can't avoid getting caught in it. I also went to other forums looking for answers and xim apex released SAB 2.0, however their solution was to use some specific keyboards and mice to simulate a joystick, which did allow some players to avoid the mousetrap, but many players were venting about the poor dpi.
@richard
Could we try to simulate the xim apex and convert the signal into a joystick signal with some clever little device?
Title: Re: feel of playing R6 with V5.6.107
Post by: indicud on May 03, 2023, 11:12:45 PM

Could we try to simulate the xim apex and convert the signal into a joystick signal with some clever little device?

It feels more logical to add randomization in all features, randomized ramp up time on left joystick and triggers, randomized anti recoil patterns that change ever so slightly from the original in an effort to evade detection, randomized timing on all inputs but keep them under say 20 ms (or whatever is logical and possible) randomized timing on macros in general such as "100 ms" I feel as if they(ubisoft) can read that "x" button was held for "y" "z" many times in a row.

Let me know if this makes sense, hopefully richard and devs will get to see this message. No rush take your time and bring us a surefire mousetrap work around and goodluck.
Title: Re: feel of playing R6 with V5.6.107
Post by: cerep_rus on May 04, 2023, 11:16:26 AM
Have same issues with mousetrap.  Played one game and after started delay on movement. And end of the match get penalty for using mnk.
Title: Re: feel of playing R6 with V5.6.107
Post by: richard on May 04, 2023, 11:33:09 AM
some randomizations have already been added to v5.6.107.
will assess the current situation and reply later.
Title: Re: feel of playing R6 with V5.6.107
Post by: nayk on May 04, 2023, 01:25:53 PM
I played it yesterday and got a Mouse trap from the first game. I'm sure UBI has changed the algorithm. 😭😭😭
Title: Re: feel of playing R6 with V5.6.107
Post by: Mohamed.samy83 on May 05, 2023, 02:12:52 AM
hi guyes please i need good settings for rainbow six seigeg iam played 3200 dpi but idont know any thing for reasnow  iam yse xim plaese share to me settings or rsm file
Title: Re: feel of playing R6 with V5.6.107
Post by: richard on May 05, 2023, 10:43:09 AM
@scott
we are on our own track to solve this issue, no need to simulate features from our competitors,
but All roads lead to The same Rome.
Title: Re: feel of playing R6 with V5.6.107
Post by: scott on May 05, 2023, 12:34:48 PM
@richard
Thank you for your dedication, there is no need to rush and take your time, I am also trying to help you by some means. I am now trying to detect if the mousetrap will detect me by using the control handle left stick + mouse, unfortunately I was not able to avoid it.I'm sure you're more than capable of dealing with this and I'm here if there's anything I can do to help you.
Title: Re: feel of playing R6 with V5.6.107
Post by: Glorybravesoul on May 05, 2023, 12:38:38 PM
Somehow yesterday I wasnt detected by ai while played 3 ratings games.
Idk the reason and how it works😂
Title: Re: feel of playing R6 with V5.6.107
Post by: nadie852 on May 05, 2023, 12:55:39 PM
Somehow yesterday I wasnt detected by ai while played 3 ratings games.
Idk the reason and how it works😂


@Glorybravesoul We are counting on you friend, you are very important right now, Richard if anyone can overcome this it is you!!! Reasnow S1 or nothing!!!



Title: Re: feel of playing R6 with V5.6.107
Post by: richard on May 05, 2023, 06:18:58 PM
@scott smart choice and testing!
1. unplug your keyboard to avoid an accident press.
2. try more ranked games with left stick(left hand) + mouse(right hand), do not use macros or AA in S1
any feedback is welcomed!
Title: Re: feel of playing R6 with V5.6.107
Post by: Glorybravesoul on May 05, 2023, 06:31:16 PM
Could you pls clarify AA means Auto aim? How to switch it on/off?
Title: Re: feel of playing R6 with V5.6.107
Post by: nadie852 on May 06, 2023, 12:13:28 AM
AA: Aim Assist
Title: Re: feel of playing R6 with V5.6.107
Post by: Glorybravesoul on May 06, 2023, 12:50:49 AM
Thank you)
Title: Re: feel of playing R6 with V5.6.107
Post by: cerep_rus on May 06, 2023, 06:51:11 PM
Hi. I have been trying to play with ps3 move controller and mouse and was detected. After i played only with controller to remove detection. After i unplug my mouse and keyboard and connect another controller to reasnows1 and use controller configuration on reasnow app but after 2 games i been detected anyway. I think mousetrap detecting niw reasnow and doesn't matter what you  connect to it
Title: Re: feel of playing R6 with V5.6.107
Post by: uThunder7z on May 07, 2023, 12:34:05 PM
Joguei umas 5 partidas ranked e n?p fui detectado, usando apenas T-Bag e rapid fire algumas vezes, por?m depois fui jogar uma partida rapida e fui detectado. Parei de jogar por 3 dias e o delay sumiu, voltei a jogar em minha conta secund?ria com o controle, conectei um cabo usb normal e fui punido com delay, esse Mouse-Trap n?o est? funcionando certeiramente, at? controles que usam cabo est?o sendo afetados, ainda n?o estou certo de usar o S1 em minhas partidas denovo. Oque devo fazer? Ligar o S1 apenas depois da partida come?ar?
Title: Re: feel of playing R6 with V5.6.107
Post by: scott on May 08, 2023, 08:56:50 AM
@richard
I'll tell you about my testing experience over the last two days, I tried to bypass the mousetrap using a joystick + mouse combination over the last two days, but I failed, I think it was some specific parameter of reasnow that caused this, it's just a guess. I wonder if some new hardware could be used with reasnow to achieve joystick parameter emulation, like a keyboard with a joystick etc.
Title: Re: feel of playing R6 with V5.6.107
Post by: richard on May 08, 2023, 10:46:54 AM
@cerep_rus  @uThunder7z @scott
thanks for sharing your experiences! we will assess the current situation and get back to you later.
Title: Re: feel of playing R6 with V5.6.107
Post by: cerep_rus on May 08, 2023, 06:24:03 PM
I hope that soon we'll get solution to solve this problem. You done it great for the first time and  I hope you do it again
Title: Re: feel of playing R6 with V5.6.107
Post by: cerep_rus on May 09, 2023, 05:57:30 PM
Ny experience of using ps3 move controller and mouse.  Have read on xim forum what mousetrap seeing keyboard 4 ways movement of wasd and ned to be used analog keyboard or move stick as ps3 move controller. I can tell it's doesn't work on reasnow. After 3 games I been detected using mouse. Maybe it's work on xim but really not on reasnow s1
Title: Re: feel of playing R6 with V5.6.107
Post by: richard on May 10, 2023, 11:31:10 AM
no, an analog stick can't solve this easily for both XIM and ReaSnow.
Title: Re: feel of playing R6 with V5.6.107
Post by: cerep_rus on May 10, 2023, 12:33:05 PM
Richard.  Do you have any news for as. Or we need go back to controller play
Title: Re: feel of playing R6 with V5.6.107
Post by: richard on May 10, 2023, 04:21:01 PM
no news for now, we all need some more patience:)
Title: Re: feel of playing R6 with V5.6.107
Post by: cerep_rus on May 10, 2023, 05:08:37 PM
Keep trying to find solutions. Before i had used 4000 dpi on my mouse and recommended setting in game + ps3 move controller.  Today i change mouse dpi to 500 it sound very low  and change my game setting from 100 to about normal controller setting 25/25 and 10 dz. Aim settings 1?58 and all rest scope 95. 12? 155. Reasnows1 sensitivity 31.00 on both hip and aim. Have played 5 games not detected at all. No imput lag. Nothing.  On hip movements bit weird but it looks works. Next i will try 800 dpi for better mouse movements on hip
Title: Re: feel of playing R6 with V5.6.107
Post by: cerep_rus on May 10, 2023, 07:29:04 PM
Another trial was done 800 dpi and changed game settings to 50/50. Reasnow s1 settings 7.50/7.50. After 2 games was detected by mousetrap.  But after i switched to 500 dpi and game settings 25/25 Reasnow s1 settings 31.00/31.00 and played 3 games detection gone.  Actually don't know what caused detection on 800 dpi.or it was higher dpi or game settings 50/50. But definitely on 500 dpi and game settings 25/25 detection gone as i been playing on controller
Title: Re: feel of playing R6 with V5.6.107
Post by: MobilkaXbox on May 11, 2023, 02:03:30 AM
Keep trying to find solutions. Before i had used 4000 dpi on my mouse and recommended setting in game + ps3 move controller.  Today i change mouse dpi to 500 it sound very low  and change my game setting from 100 to about normal controller setting 25/25 and 10 dz. Aim settings 1?58 and all rest scope 95. 12? 155. Reasnows1 sensitivity 31.00 on both hip and aim. Have played 5 games not detected at all. No imput lag. Nothing.  On hip movements bit weird but it looks works. Next i will try 800 dpi for better mouse movements on hip
I played 4 games with these settings until a penalty was awarded
Title: Re: feel of playing R6 with V5.6.107
Post by: scott on May 12, 2023, 09:01:58 AM
@richard
I used Mr cerep_rus's setup and it proved to work, I was caught by the mousetrap after 5 games, although such dpi gave me a headache, he did manage to bypass the mousetrap, I guess Ubisoft may have tested the controller 100/100, I will try playing at 800 dpi and some acceleration of the game settings to test if I can bypass the mousetrap with the mouse feel.
Don't worry richard, it's hard but I believe you, also a little disclosure, xim's SAB 2.0 has revealed some serious problems in the delayed state, some people can't even move properly.
Title: Re: feel of playing R6 with V5.6.107
Post by: richard on May 12, 2023, 10:39:13 AM
@scott
yes, it seems lowering in-game sensitivity will be some help, and we are still considering all possible solutions.
by the way, we knew the cons of SAB2.0, that is not what we would create for users.
big SAB values bring huge delays.
Title: Re: feel of playing R6 with V5.6.107
Post by: cerep_rus on May 13, 2023, 06:41:26 AM
Last update not working. Was detected after 3 games.
Title: Re: feel of playing R6 with V5.6.107
Post by: richard on May 14, 2023, 07:06:19 PM
it will be a long story now.
we are still working on it.
Title: Re: feel of playing R6 with V5.6.107
Post by: Glorybravesoul on May 15, 2023, 09:59:06 PM
Someone have any issues regarding to beta .109 and mouse trap?
Title: Re: feel of playing R6 with V5.6.107
Post by: cerep_rus on May 16, 2023, 11:34:56 AM
.109 is detectable by mousetrap.  But for me i find solutions. Every time after new firmware I'm detected after 3-4games. But settings what i find and has tested for week  remove detection and i event don't need to use controller to do so.  Can play all day ranked without any issues
Title: Re: feel of playing R6 with V5.6.107
Post by: Glorybravesoul on May 16, 2023, 01:59:22 PM
Actually I have played for 3 days without detection with above settings. 500 dpi 10/10 dz 90/90 in game sensitivity.
Title: Re: feel of playing R6 with V5.6.107
Post by: cerep_rus on May 16, 2023, 07:32:35 PM
Same as me 500 dpi. But in games sens is 41 and i played without detection all weekend
. But when i went to 45/45i was detected after 6-7  games.  But it was on another .107 or 108 software.  I will try to play on 90/90 games  sens on last software.  See what happens.  But definitely when i had tried ne software with normal sensitivity i was detected,  but when i went back to 500 dpi and 41/41 game sensitivity  detection gon and i played without any problems
Title: Re: feel of playing R6 with V5.6.107
Post by: scott on May 23, 2023, 08:59:37 AM
OK, I hope you'll forgive me for not updating in time for the past few days with some work stuff, so let me summarise my experience of the tour over the past two weeks.First of all, I tested all of them according to everyone's method, and the solution that is comfortable for me at the moment is 16k dpi 3/3 dz 41/41, everyone's hand feels different, you can fine tune it but remember, dz better not exceed 90. Ubisoft seems to have a special test for high dz, so far I am not caught by the mousetrap and the hand feels not much different from before.
@richard
I know you guys probably don't have plans for new firmware, but I'd still suggest you try exploring new firmware, reasonw has been with me for almost five years and I know she's good, but inevitably we've been targeted and maybe new firmware can fix those problems, thanks for your time
Title: Re: feel of playing R6 with V5.6.107
Post by: richard on May 23, 2023, 10:42:00 AM
@scott
thanks! we are still following all the reports and working on it.
will upgrade our firmware once the improvement can be confirmed.